我算不算闯红灯？

llili

我今天在６０ＫＭ／Ｈ的路上开车时，由于路口的交通灯没有倒时数字，等交通灯变黄时，我估计刹车已来不及，就闯过了停车线，车快到马路另一头时，交通灯才变红，请教各位，我算不算闯红灯？

llili

我今天在６０ＫＭ／Ｈ的路上开车时，由于路口的交通灯没有倒时数字，等交通灯变黄时，我估计刹车已来不及，就闯过了停车线，车快到马路另一头时，交通灯才变红，请教各位，我算不算闯红灯？

) J9 x; M  y* b. L9 y$ ^$ I" k. c, Z警察给了我２８７元的罚单，我是否应当上诉？以上理由可以算吗？有无办法减免？

laojianghu

当然要起诉,一定要赢

猪刀小试

按照你说的，不应该是被摄像头拍到，警察是在路边看到这一幕了？

guangdao

原帖由 laojianghu 于 2008-2-18 22:20 发表
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llili

可能是　。

llili

警察没有否认我的理由，她说我应当判断出灯要变黄了，应当减慢速度，在变红灯前停下来并不愿意进一步同我对话。我问她有何证据说我闯红灯，她说她就是证据。

yj151

上诉。

yj151

警察所说只是她的个人看法。
上诉，争取免除处罚。

小李飞刀

我认为不算闯红灯，只能算是倒霉。
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上诉吧。

My2cents

原帖由 llili 于 2008-2-18 22:42 发表
2 D) N, \" h( C& r. Q' E警察没有否认我的理由，她说我应当判断出灯要变黄了，应当减慢速度，在变红灯前停下来并不愿意进一步同我对话。我问她有何证据说我闯红灯，她说她就是证据。

' a- `, s) _& \, v' XThe judge will always believe in what the police says, not yours. Your chance is if the police doesn't show up in court, you could probably win.

今晚打老虎

原帖由 My2cents 于 2008-2-19 13:47 发表
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" q8 g% }" o! e' pThe judge will always believe in what the police says, not yours. Your chance is if the police doesn't show up in court, you could probably win.

不会是这样把？警察也有出错的时候啊
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tomgod

上庭，不要怕，让那个警察拿出证据来。
不要说她就是证据，她究竟是人证还是物证？搞笑了，让律师与她掰吧。
4 }+ d  q5 G! H* M* n( ~还有，什么能判断出要变黄灯了，有这么说的么？难道那个灯上有倒数数字？？？

llili

闯红灯到底是何定义？是指红灯时还超过停车线？还是指红灯亮时车还未离开十字路口（我属于后者）？我查了驾照手册，并无确切定义。

NEB

if you saw the yellow light, decide to cross it and before you could finish crossing the intersection and the lights turned red, then yes, that's running the red light. if you are driving at 60km/hr and still unable to complete the crossing before the lights turn red, then you'll have re-assess your visual judgements. typically, lights remain yellow for 4 seconds before turning red. with 4 seconds of time at 60km/hr, you will cover approximately 70m of distance (assuming you did not speed up, which most people will do when they try to race through an intersection before the lights turn red). 70m is approximately 3/4 of a football field, ie a quite a good distance, something your eyes should have been able to assess and tell your feet to stop or go. I wouldn't bother to apeal in your case, you will not win. it's a bit of bad luck with you pulled over by the cops, but it's also a poor assessment on your behalf.

牛肉粉丝

当然不算了，绝对上诉！

Eunice.kk

11和15楼的说法教为客观,偶听过有这样的说法,但是上诉还是要坚持,虽然指控对象是警察会难些,难讲后面会有运气赢(只要警察不出庭),只能祝你好运啦!

llili

谢谢大家！

昨夜长空

上次去庭的时候那里的法官说了 你冲出去的时候 还是黄灯 就不是闯红灯

westjh

我前两天在南区的沃尔马前的岔路口也遇到了和楼主同样的问题，正心里打鼓呢 等着看结果。

ben8286

I just have a question. If I want to make a left turn, when i go into the intersection, the light is green. Then i wait and wait. When the light turn to yellow, the cars in opposite side are still running. Therefore, I cannot make the left turn until the red light is on. Is it running to red light. Thanks

牛肉粉丝

原帖由 ben8286 于 2008-2-22 23:21 发表
I just have a question. If I want to make a left turn, when i go into the intersection, the light is green. Then i wait and wait. When the light turn to yellow, the cars in opposite side are still run ...

当然不算了，你是在intersection，而不是从Stop line驶出的。

阴暗的角落

支持上诉

huang

等待结果。

waterous

根据警察给你的罚单和态度我大概可以推定： 你是高学历。
大部分高学历认为自己没有错的时候会理直气壮跟警察争论，这就是为什么总是有人拿到根本不该拿的罚单。
那低学历的怎么跟警察打交道而能避过罚单呢？
不管有没有错，态度很好，不强调自己的理由，只说SORRY，8成机会能逃过罚单。

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执迷不悔

原帖由 llili 于 2008-2-18 23:42 发表
警察没有否认我的理由，她说我应当判断出灯要变黄了，应当减慢速度，在变红灯前停下来并不愿意进一步同我对话。我问她有何证据说我闯红灯，她说她就是证据。

我估计是她看上你了，给她个机会吧，法庭上见时，和她约时间 for coffee or something
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anyway, good luck

xge

在法庭, 90%的可能给你免了.

jmtshjx

原帖由 wyn89 于 2008-3-10 12:46 发表

我估计是她看上你了，给她个机会吧，法庭上见时，和她约时间 for coffee or something
hehe, 值
anyway, good luck

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NEB

strictly speaking, yes you are still running the red lights. everyone does that, and i do that too, so it really comes down to how good is your luck and what's the cop's mood when he's deciding if he should pull you over for a ticket.

georgelin